I posted this also in the C6 area:

Anyone have some good information about this supercharger? I know this is the top shelf charger from Procharger right? What are the engine requirments needed to run this beast? How about tranny and drivetrain? Worth the extra bucks from their DC1SC? Just wondering.

Vic

All I know is that is one bad a$$ mother F*cker!!! Serious power, you might need a forged motor?

I posted this also in the C6 area:

Anyone have some good information about this supercharger? I know this is the top shelf charger from Procharger right? What are the engine requirments needed to run this beast? How about tranny and drivetrain? Worth the extra bucks from their DC1SC? Just wondering.

Vic

HERE (http://www.procharger.com/models.shtml) it is direct from Procharger.
Is there anything specific you were looking for in the spec sheet?
F1-R is a monster... :D :D :D

All I know is that is one bad a$$ mother F*cker!!! Serious power, you might need a forged motor?

:iagree: Forge that motor!

Im not sure what you are after hp wise. But the standard D1SC will put 700rwhp down on a standard displacement LS1. Larger blowers are only need in larger displacement engines when smaller ones cannot keep up. In my experience at least, its better to spin a smaller one a little harder than getting one thats made for a large displacement engine. But alas, I am only a humble Mustang owner.

To take full advantage of the capabilities of the F1 supercharger, you would need a forged, low comp engine, blueprinted trans, heavy duty clutch or converter, and blueprinted rearend. Not to mention the suspension required to hook all that up! This setup would be capable of over 1000 HP, but as others have said, a standard D1SC kit on a C6 will make 700 easily, so it all depends on what you're looking for.

Let me know if I can answer any questions,
Ed

To take full advantage of the capabilities of the F1 supercharger, you would need a forged, low comp engine, blueprinted trans, heavy duty clutch or converter, and blueprinted rearend. Not to mention the suspension required to hook all that up! This setup would be capable of over 1000 HP, but as others have said, a standard D1SC kit on a C6 will make 700 easily, so it all depends on what you're looking for.

Let me know if I can answer any questions,
Ed

Ed, some ideas to bounce off you. How say you?

The F series has 3 models. The 1R is the toughest the spin (ergo not for most folks).

The F1c may be a good choice for someone who's starting out to build a forged motor, perhaps with a stroker crank shaft (ergo 402 cubes) and wants to run 13-16 lbs of boost. The F1c is a little more money than the D1sc but is loafing at that boost level (wereas the D1sc is near it's comfortable upper limit). The higher step up ratio 5.5/1 on the F1c mean you can go with larger SC pulleys to get better belt wrap. All in all, the F1c may produce less heat sink.

Sound right? Thanks!:cheers:

To take full advantage of the capabilities of the F1 supercharger, you would need a forged, low comp engine, blueprinted trans, heavy duty clutch or converter, and blueprinted rearend. Not to mention the suspension required to hook all that up! This setup would be capable of over 1000 HP, but as others have said, a standard D1SC kit on a C6 will make 700 easily, so it all depends on what you're looking for.

Let me know if I can answer any questions,
Ed


Good info, I'll be calling you guys soon. :thumbsup:

Ed, some ideas to bounce off you. How say you?

The F series has 3 models. The 1R is the toughest the spin (ergo not for most folks).

The F1c may be a good choice for someone who's starting out to build a forged motor, perhaps with a stroker crank shaft (ergo 402 cubes) and wants to run 13-16 lbs of boost. The F1c is a little more money than the D1sc but is loafing at that boost level (wereas the D1sc is near it's comfortable upper limit). The higher step up ratio 5.5/1 on the F1c mean you can go with larger SC pulleys to get better belt wrap. All in all, the F1c may produce less heat sink.

Sound right? Thanks!:cheers:


Hi Tom,

As usual, you're spot on regarding Procharger sizing! makes sense since you probably have more laps on one than anybody:cheers:

I would agree, if someone is looking at the 15+ PSI range, the F1C would be an excellent choice, because, as Tom said, it would easily make that boost, compared to the D1SC working at it's limit to produce that.

The other thing to consider is that since you would be building a forged motor at the same time, you have the opportunity to set compression as low as possible for max boost. I have much lower compression beliefs than most when it comes to boosted engines, but I can tell you that any of our low comp boost engines will see 800+ HP at roughly 10 PSI on pump gas:cheers: The question becomes, if we can do that with 10 PSI, do we really need to spend the extra money to make more boost?

The other point I would like to make is that people want to be honest with themselves about how much power they need/want. It sounds real cool to say " I have a 1,000 RWHP Vette!" but the reality of that is, you have a car that you're afraid to go full throttle on for fear of losing controll! Really, anything over 600 RWHP in a street car is a total waste, but is is easily achieveable for those who want it.

Ed

Good info, I'll be calling you guys soon. :thumbsup:


Sounds good, give me a call at the shop 260-724-7792 and we can discuss your setup,
Ed

I have a procharger in my Vette and have it running at 7 lbs of boost and the car is an absolute monster when you put your foot into the gas!

Hi Tom,



The other point I would like to make is that people want to be honest with themselves about how much power they need/want. It sounds real cool to say " I have a 1,000 RWHP Vette!" but the reality of that is, you have a car that you're afraid to go full throttle on for fear of losing controll! Really, anything over 600 RWHP in a street car is a total waste, but is is easily achieveable for those who want it.

Ed

Very good point. I can never really use all the power/HP on my SC car on the street. As Ed mentions, it would just "light up" the tires.

The logical way (& unfortunately only place) you can appreciate > levels (ergo 700+) is in a track environs. When RR, especially entering straights, usually accelerating from 65+ into 3 digit speeds, you can enjoy the freight train like pull, without losing rear traction.

Conclusion: Ed's right on the money. Unless you plan to track your car frequently (1/4 or RR) think long and hard about pushing the envelope past 600 rwhp.:iagree:

Im running a F1-R at 18 psi on my meth breathing 402 and we made 959 rwhp with a rich tune, should be around 1000k when were said and done. But yes the F1-R is for serious people and not for the local bugerking cruser.

Bill :burnout:

Im running the R Blower, it takes 300 hp to spin, and loves to eat belts, but we figured out the belt issues