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bushhog
06-07-2007, 07:09 AM
I have stock C6 brakes and I was wondering if I could upgrade the rotors with out having to change anything else? If that is the case what aftermarket rotors do you recommend? Also will changing just these improve my braking alot? Thanks

smokinvette
06-08-2007, 04:39 PM
I have stock C6 brakes and I was wondering if I could upgrade the rotors with out having to change anything else? If that is the case what aftermarket rotors do you recommend? Also will changing just these improve my braking alot? Thanks

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bobsvette
06-13-2007, 06:59 AM
I have stock C6 brakes and I was wondering if I could upgrade the rotors with out having to change anything else? If that is the case what aftermarket rotors do you recommend? Also will changing just these improve my braking alot? Thanks

If you considering AP Racing, you may want to look at Brembo also.

vettegirl2007
06-15-2007, 06:44 AM
I just got my new Wilwoods in a few weeks ago! Love 'em! I had called AP they didn't have complete front and back available, Brembo was up there on cost, I called Stoptec and just didn't like what I saw. Hope this helps! :p

tom snitzer
06-18-2007, 05:17 PM
I have owned and raced stock OEM vette brakes, Wilwoods and Brembos. A number of friends also run Stoptech.

All of the above look good on the street and will perform admirably there. Frankly, however, there's no real reason to upgrade OEM brakes for street use other than bling. OEM brakes are more than capable of handling what you will encounter on the street.

On the track it's an entirely different matter. OEM brakes will normally fade after 4-5 hard laps on a track. After-market brakes if selected properly won't fade under hard repeated track braking like OEM's will. Brembo and Stoptech are clearly the superior choice on the track*. They cost $1,000-$2,000 more for the set, but worth every penny. Brakes are the single most important upgrade for the track. Not a place to pinch pennies.

Note: If you plan on using Wilwoods on the track you will need to go to a dedicated race pad (H compound) which isn't safe on the street.

*I use Hawk Black pads which work both on the street and track.

tomcat
06-19-2007, 06:56 AM
I have owned and raced stock OEM vette brakes, Wilwoods and Brembos. A number of friends also run Stoptech.

All of the above look good on the street and will perform admirably there. Frankly, however, there's no real reason to upgrade OEM brakes for street use other than bling. OEM brakes are more than capable of handling what you will encounter on the street.

On the track it's an entirely different matter. OEM brakes will normally fade after 4-5 hard laps on a track. After-market brakes if selected properly won't fade under hard repeated track braking like OEM's will. Brembo and Stoptech are clearly the superior choice on the track*. They cost $1,000-$2,000 more for the set, but worth every penny. Brakes are the single most important upgrade for the track. Not a place to pinch pennies.

Note: If you plan on using Wilwoods on the track you will need to go to a dedicated race pad (H compound) which isn't safe on the street.

*I use Hawk Black pads which work both on the street and track.


Great post - Why is the H compound not safe for street use? Actually what are these?

tom snitzer
06-20-2007, 06:59 PM
Unlike other brake manufacturers, who can use a variety of different pads manufactured by other, Wilwood brakes generally require the use of Wilwood manuf pads. The H compound is the pad of choice that almost all Wilwood RR track users. They will outlast Wilwood's recommended combo street /track pads (E compound, BP 10 and BP 20) by 4-5 times on track days. They have superior stopping power and won't fade at high track temps. The catch, they don't stop well when cold (i.e. street temps, and eat rotors when used cold). Not a particularly safe pad for the street. The Wilwood rep will steer you away from it for any street application.

The flip side: I took a pair of BP20's out for a two day event several months ago. By the second day the front pads were entirely gone. After 5 hard session laps, the brakes were showing fade and not biting hard.

My Brembos on the other hand will put you through the windshield and never fade on the track. My Hawk Black pads, while designed as a track pad are perfectly fine on the street and don't squeal like many track pads.

Conclusion: If you plan on using Wilwoods on the track, plan on changing the pads when you get there or trailing the car.

tom snitzer
06-20-2007, 07:02 PM
Opps, here's the version less the typos:

Unlike other brake manufacturers, who can use a variety of different pads manufactured by others, Wilwood brakes generally require the use of Wilwood manufactured pads. The H compound is the pad of choice that almost all serious Wilwood RR track users employ. They will outlast Wilwood's recommended combo street /track pads (E compound, BP 10 and BP 20) by 4-5 times on track days. They have superior stopping power and won't fade at high track temps.

The catch, they don't stop well when cold (i.e. street temps, and eat rotors when used cold). Not a particularly safe pad for the street. The Wilwood rep will steer you away from it for any street application.

The flip side: I took out a pair of BP20's on Wilwood’s big brake kit for a two day event several months ago. By the second day the front pads were entirely gone. After 5 hard session laps, the brakes were showing fade and not biting hard.

My Brembos on the other hand will put you through the windshield and never fade on the track. My Hawk Black pads, while designed as a track pad are perfectly fine on the street and don't squeal like many track pads.

Conclusion: If you plan on using Wilwoods on the track, plan on changing the pads when you get there or trailing the car.