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: Top Superchargers for C5's?


route66
03-04-2007, 02:58 PM
I'm in my research phase right now. I'm working on suspension and when I'm done here I would like to add some additional power. What superchargers are out there and which ones are the best? If you have photos please post.

02RonZ06
03-04-2007, 09:11 PM
Here is one with a procharger and intercooled Z06 LS6 engine.

http://www.fastcoolcars.com/images/c5-z06-04/C5-Z06-Corvette-0076.jpg

And another with another Procharger:

http://www.fastcoolcars.com/images/c5-z06-10/C5-Z06-Corvette-0190.jpg

another

http://www.fastcoolcars.com/images/c5-z06-19/C5-Z06-Corvette-0380.jpg

Then of course there are the Maggie superchargers, and the polished ones look so nice too:

http://www.fastcoolcars.com/images/c5-z06-36/C5-Z06-Corvette-0713.jpg

Depends what you are looking for exactly, and since your going with Forced Induction you should consider a Twin turbo set-up, probably overall the most effcient, and a few different setup possiblities available for the C5 Corvettes.

tstar
03-04-2007, 10:46 PM
Ron's right on, as usual. The biggest question is do you want the sleeper look or not? The turbos and procharger type superchargers look stock from outside the car, while twin screw type superchargers require a high rise hood for clearence.... unlike the old school head and cam swap, you won't sacrifice drivability or gas mileage, additionally alot of them have or can be retro fitted with a valet option that basically blows off the boost prior to getting to the engine...

Almost all of these systems pretty much keeps your car right at below the HP and torque threshold that requires extensive drivetrain and/or short block strengthening. In other words you can bolt em on and run the hell out of the car! But I'd probably beef up the differential... it's the weakest link.

After doing a little research (yeah right!) I like the APS Twin Turbo setup or the Kenne Bell Supercharger.

tstar
03-04-2007, 10:49 PM
I just realised that I didn't answer your question!

API and Vortech are top sellers as well as the Magnuson and Kenne Bell for the roots type.

nyvette
03-05-2007, 07:35 AM
I know this is the C5 section... I will just say there is nothing like looking at chargers under a hood! Nice pics!

tom snitzer
03-05-2007, 08:07 AM
A few additional facts about FI. You have 2 basic choices turbo or SC. Turbo gets you lots of low end boost fast, is quiet and there are no belts to change. They are a little more expensive to install correctly ($1,000 addl). The big negative is if your into road racing. There's a lag when you drop the peddle until the impeller spools up, then a rather abrupt boost in power. On the street or in a drag application that's fun. Road racing the sudden boost can put an inexperienced(or even an intermediate driver) off the track when exiting a turn (aka. if your serious about HPDEs don't buy one).

As for the SC choices those fall into two categories(I: stock hood, II: high rise hood reqrd):
I. Centrifugal SCs: Procharger, Vortech, ESC kit, which don't require a high rise front hood. The only disadvantage to these is they don't build signif power until the rpms are over 3,700. If you forge the bottom end of the car, you can get these to turn out impressive hp #s(my car for ex. is 740rwhp).
IIa. roots style: Maggie: Builds powers right away at 2,000+rpm. Downsides: limit to about 500 rwhp and needs high rise hood.
IIb. twin screw: Kenne Bell: Builds power right away and can be modified to support 800rwhp. More efficient, less parasitic loss. Downsides: high rise hood, addl weights (+100 lbs). PS. Ford GT uses twin screw.

Good resource. Call East Coast Supercharging and speak with Doug.

tstar
03-05-2007, 01:16 PM
I know this is the C5 section... I will just say there is nothing like looking at chargers under a hood! Nice pics!

Well our cars start with a "C" and end in Vette, so you're cool! :D

tstar
03-05-2007, 01:18 PM
A few additional facts about FI. You have 2 basic choices turbo or SC. Turbo gets you lots of low end boost fast, is quiet and there are no belts to change. They are a little more expensive to install correctly ($1,000 addl). The big negative is if your into road racing. There's a lag when you drop the peddle until the impeller spools up, then a rather abrupt boost in power. On the street or in a drag application that's fun. Road racing the sudden boost can put an inexperienced(or even an intermediate driver) off the track when exiting a turn (aka. if your serious about HPDEs don't buy one).

As for the SC choices those fall into two categories(I: stock hood, II: high rise hood reqrd):
I. Centrifugal SCs: Procharger, Vortech, ESC kit, which don't require a high rise front hood. The only disadvantage to these is they don't build signif power until the rpms are over 3,700. If you forge the bottom end of the car, you can get these to turn out impressive hp #s(my car for ex. is 740rwhp).
IIa. roots style: Maggie: Builds powers right away at 2,000+rpm. Downsides: limit to about 500 rwhp and needs high rise hood.
IIb. twin screw: Kenne Bell: Builds power right away and can be modified to support 800rwhp. More efficient, less parasitic loss. Downsides: high rise hood, addl weights (+100 lbs). PS. Ford GT uses twin screw.

Good resource. Call East Coast Supercharging and speak with Doug.

Excellent Post! I'm leaning towards a Kenne Bell if I go the FI route, any thoughts on it, heard any pros or cons... ?

02RonZ06
03-05-2007, 06:11 PM
I've heard lots of ggod only things about Kenny Bell SC's, but actually I have not personally seen any listings for a C5 or C6 aplication, only the Magnuson root style blower was available.

smokinvette
03-05-2007, 07:32 PM
A few additional facts about FI. You have 2 basic choices turbo or SC. Turbo gets you lots of low end boost fast, is quiet and there are no belts to change. They are a little more expensive to install correctly ($1,000 addl). The big negative is if your into road racing. There's a lag when you drop the peddle until the impeller spools up, then a rather abrupt boost in power. On the street or in a drag application that's fun. Road racing the sudden boost can put an inexperienced(or even an intermediate driver) off the track when exiting a turn (aka. if your serious about HPDEs don't buy one).

As for the SC choices those fall into two categories(I: stock hood, II: high rise hood reqrd):
I. Centrifugal SCs: Procharger, Vortech, ESC kit, which don't require a high rise front hood. The only disadvantage to these is they don't build signif power until the rpms are over 3,700. If you forge the bottom end of the car, you can get these to turn out impressive hp #s(my car for ex. is 740rwhp).
IIa. roots style: Maggie: Builds powers right away at 2,000+rpm. Downsides: limit to about 500 rwhp and needs high rise hood.
IIb. twin screw: Kenne Bell: Builds power right away and can be modified to support 800rwhp. More efficient, less parasitic loss. Downsides: high rise hood, addl weights (+100 lbs). PS. Ford GT uses twin screw.

Good resource. Call East Coast Supercharging and speak with Doug.


Excellent post! Very informative 740rwhp?? NICE... post a few photos if you have them available! Would love to see your Vette!

tstar
03-05-2007, 10:00 PM
I've heard lots of ggod only things about Kenny Bell SC's, but actually I have not personally seen any listings for a C5 or C6 aplication, only the Magnuson root style blower was available.

Read and drool! :D

http://www.kennebell.net/superchargers/gm/Corvette/gmCorvette.htm

tom snitzer
03-06-2007, 05:34 AM
Making final decision. I have a Procharger D1SC which I modded for more hp(ECS fuel pump, forged bot and cooling adds for track(radiator, meth inj, oil cooler).

If I was doing a car for the street and drag applic only I would be leaning toward a APS twin turbo. That will get you much better low end pull. For under $10,000 your all set.

If you want to do some HPDE's on occasion, I would consider the Kenne Bell assuming you have a competent installer. The problem with centrif blowers at non forged boost levels (7-8 lbs boost) is that their hp adds come on only at high revs. A Kenne Bell will feel like a ton more hp, that a centrif. Note: If you want to go with a centrif blower (because you don’t have a Kenne Bell installer nearby or don’t want to change the car hood, ECS can also set you up with centrif with a restrictor plate option. It allows you to run more boost earlier without blowing up the engine. That would be my 2nd choice option for SC.

PS. If you serious about road racing: For the cost of a forged bottom, centrif sc, with proper fuel pump & cooling you can install a big block crate engine and make 700+ hp (approx $15,000). I plan to build a track car in about 12 months and will likely be going with a warhawk 454 cu in block. That will stay cool on the track and has amazing low end pull.

Will post some pics of my car a(currently at tuner getting prepped for Spring RR opening day). Good luck. Reminder to call ECS (Doug). His knowledge far surpasses mine (although he may not be a Kenne Bell dealer).

02RonZ06
03-07-2007, 07:15 PM
Tstar - Thanks for the link, there may well be a 2.6 Kenny Bell coming soon to a 02 yellow Z06 ... lol

tom snitzer
03-09-2007, 04:08 PM
Forgot to mention, if you go SC strongly suggest you consider the install a meth kit to keep air intake temps down. They are a key upgrade for centrif blowers and I assume would be a winner with the Kenne Bell. Worth looking into. Adds $300-$500 in parts to the install, but keep engine from overheating. SC's under load generate a ton of heat.

tstar
03-09-2007, 04:17 PM
And here I was going to run my AC lines inside the AIR coupler!

Just kidding! Thanx for the info, I knew about the meth, just wasn't sure if it was needed for a street car or if it was mainly for HPDE/Track cars...

tom snitzer
03-09-2007, 04:34 PM
Meth generally adds less than 10% to the cost of a SC install. If your planning on driving hard in warm weather, plan to drag or do HPDE events many think it's mandatory.

The 100% meth kits tend to perform best and are programmable to increase the inj rate based on the SC boost. I.e. the meth spray comes on when you need it. To sync the meth kit properly, that requires the car needs to be retuned. Since it usually costs $400+ to properly tune the SC, best to install the Meth kit up front and save the cost of retuning later. PS. The ECS meth kit is a winner.

C5CHICK
03-11-2007, 03:54 PM
http://www.smokinvette.com/photopost/data/500/882083525_l.jpg
Its a stage II procharger running at 7 psi kit came with 42 lb fuel injectors and its duel intercooled. I currently have 446.22 rwhp. And only a few other bolts ons have not done anything internally.

02RonZ06
03-13-2007, 05:19 PM
Very nice. :D

Vette-007
03-16-2007, 10:41 AM
Meth generally adds less than 10% to the cost of a SC install. If your planning on driving hard in warm weather, plan to drag or do HPDE events many think it's mandatory.

The 100% meth kits tend to perform best and are programmable to increase the inj rate based on the SC boost. I.e. the meth spray comes on when you need it. To sync the meth kit properly, that requires the car needs to be retuned. Since it usually costs $400+ to properly tune the SC, best to install the Meth kit up front and save the cost of retuning later. PS. The ECS meth kit is a winner.


Where can you get the ECS system at and what is the cost? Thanks

tom snitzer
03-16-2007, 01:48 PM
Check link and talk to Doug or Chris. I think the kit is around $1,600. Again it's useful for applications where boost in 12+ lbs and a boost-a-pump won't cut it.

http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.com/

tom snitzer
03-16-2007, 01:50 PM
Sorry about that, I'm getting Alzheimer’s. The meth kits runs around $600 and if your inquiring about an ECS SC system I believe they are running a special on that installed for about $9,000.