The renegade is on schedule and will be on top of my crossfire soon and ready to :burnout:

Ported ceasfire:sheep:

renegade, its so fast I don't have a little cartoon to describe it.:thumbsup3:

PLEASE let us know dyno results B4 and after!
Surprised they are going ahead. Havent been following the drama but glad they found support!

For the people that did the preorder of the renegade, we get emails with updates and photos of the inside of the renegade and photos of the molds and updates of where it is being made. And upcoming magazine articles that will be coming out. Maybe a few more will buy one. This renegade is more for the guy that wants a little extra out of the stock crossfire and to continue to look stock and be able to still use all of the emissions if desired. Looks like a real cool intake.

This renegade is more for the guy that wants a little extra out of the stock crossfire
If you swap on an aftermarket intake manifold, how is it still a stock crossfire?



and to continue to look stock and be able to still use all of the emissions if desired. Looks like a real cool intake.
If it will "continue to look stock" how does that square with the claim,"Looks like a real cool intake."?

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RACE ON!!!

Looks like you are really digging for something. I see your back door humor thanks for participating CFI-EFI, see you in another post bro:seeya:

CFI-EFI, it's not too late to place your order for one. Just send DCS a check for $460 and a written apology for bad mouthing their Renegade as you have been doing. With the written apology from you, they MAY sell you one.

You may as well join us. Because until you do, you're just beating a dead horse by running your present set up.

With it's full sized tapered runners, the Renegade will provide all the air your engine needs. And having almost straight runners, it'll do the job with the least amount of fuel "smear" from fuel droplets hitting the insides of the runners.

I can certainly see why it made 33 additional horsepower on the upper end, as the stock Crossfire runs out of breath at 4000 rpm. As I have already got my throttle bodies bored to 2.0", I would expect around a 40 horsepower gain. For an intake manifold only, that's a BIG gain! Certainly justifying the $460 cost.

DCS did it the right way. They designed the Renegade to be a direct replacement manifold for the worthless Crossfire Injection manifold. It will be an exact fit with no further modifications necessary. Even the EGR valve will bolt in the same place. It's a dream come true and I can hardly wait to get mine.

With it's full sized tapered runners, the Renegade will provide all the air your engine needs. And having almost straight runners, it'll do the job with the least amount of fuel "smear" from fuel droplets hitting the insides of the runners.

I can certainly see why it made 33 additional horsepower on the upper end, as the stock Crossfire runs out of breath at 4000 rpm. As I have already got my throttle bodies bored to 2.0", I would expect around a 40 horsepower gain. For an intake manifold only, that's a BIG gain! Certainly justifying the $460 cost.

DCS did it the right way. They designed the Renegade to be a direct replacement manifold for the worthless Crossfire Injection manifold. It will be an exact fit with no further modifications necessary. Even the EGR valve will bolt in the same place. It's a dream come true and I can hardly wait to get mine.

:iagree: When we all get this thing installed, we will have to post how much our 0-60 and 1/4 mile times droped by. It will be like unclogging a toilet:toilet: . Just watch it flow.

:iagree: When we all get this thing installed, we will have to post how much our 0-60 and 1/4 mile times droped by. It will be like unclogging a toilet:toilet: . Just watch it flow.

HA!! Well I SURE hope you are right... because if you're NOT, you've got ALOT of crow to eat!!:hump: :smilielol5: :smilielol5:

My present manifold is an "un-siamesed" manifold with the center runner dividers removed. With this set up, I finally broke into the 5's on my 0-60's. With it's individual full sized runners, I expect the Renegade will further improve my car's performance. If I can hit the mid 5's, I'll be happy. And all my testing is done with 87 octane fuel only.

Although 0-60 testing as a "poor man's dyno" is pretty poor way to test, I do commend you on at least trying to get some objective data, which is mroe than 83-84 can say. I look forward to results on this intake swap, but hope to see numbers, not: "My car used to burn rubber for like 10 feet before, and now I can burn rubber for like 50 FEET!" I fear that is what we'll get from 83-84, since he hasn't established an objective baseline yet.

What do you mean by:
My present manifold is an "un-siamesed" manifold with the center runner dividers removed

What are the "center dividers"? In my mind, that is the wall, dividing a set of paired runners. Removing that would make the runners "Siamesed".

Although 0-60 testing as a "poor man's dyno" is pretty poor way to test, I do commend you on at least trying to get some objective data, which is mroe than 83-84 can say. I look forward to results on this intake swap, but hope to see numbers, not: "My car used to burn rubber for like 10 feet before, and now I can burn rubber for liek 50 FEET!" I fear that is what we'll get from 83-84, since he hasn't espablished an objective baseline yet.

What do you mean by:
My present manifold is an "un-siamesed" manifold with the center runner dividers removed

What are the "center dividers"? In my mind, that is the wall, dividing a set of paired runners. Removing that would make the runners "Siamesed".

I'm hoping to burn like 65 feet of rubber, that is the SOTP dyno:beerbang:

HA!! Well I SURE hope you are right... because if you're NOT, you've got ALOT of crow to eat!!:hump: :smilielol5: :smilielol5:

If it is faster with the new intake than I will be happy. Where did that saying come from anyway? eating crow???????

I won't be eating crow, I will be eating a thick juicy steak after racing a certain crossfire and taking his money:rockon6rk: :rockon6rk: :rockon6rk: :rockon6rk: :rockon6rk: :rockon6rk: :rockon6rk:

I'm hoping to burn like 65 feet of rubber, that is the SOTP dyno:beerbang:

How did I know that was coming?....

OK, I guess by removing the center runner dividers, I technically "siamesed" them; joined them together into one. My mistake.

But that's the only way you can get a Crossifre to REALLY breathe. But it's a lousy way to go about it. The new RENEGADE will solve the breathing problem once and for all. With it's full sized straight (and tapered) runners, it will flow like a mother.

The RENEGADE will give the Crossfire owners the chance to compete with the best of the TPI cars. The only drawback being it'll still be a wet manifold. But a properly designed wet manifold will produce 98% of the power that direct port fuel injected cars produce.

OK, I guess by removing the center runner dividers, I technically "siamesed" them; joined them together into one. My mistake.

But that's the only way you can get a Crossifre to REALLY breathe. But it's a lousy way to go about it. The new RENEGADE will solve the breathing problem once and for all. With it's full sized straight (and tapered) runners, it will flow like a mother.

The RENEGADE will give the Crossfire owners the chance to compete with the best of the TPI cars. The only drawback being it'll still be a wet manifold. But a properly designed wet manifold will produce 98% of the power that direct port fuel injected cars produce.

Not unless it makes about 40-50 hp all by itself, which is around the deficit you'll have to make up in order to run with the later TPI cars.

Oh it will run! DCS is becoming the next Callaway:rockon6rk:

I am very thankful to the guys at DCS for doing this for us. I have wanted a good intake manifold on my '82 for 22 years, and I assumed it would never happen. But it IS going to happen, and I praise DCS for making it happen.

As the nearest drag strip is 125 miles away from where I live, all I can do to measure my car's performance is to take it out on our country roads and time it from 0-60 mph with a stop watch. That, and run it over a quarter mile section of road I marked off and often use.

Oh it will run! DCS is becoming the next Callaway:rockon6rk:

:smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: :smilielol5: Geez, now THAT is funny!!! The day DCS can hold a candle to ANYTHING Callaway has put out will be a cold day in hell. Callaway and Lingenfelter are BOTH legendary as far as Vette performance, so I'd be very careful trying to compare untested hardware to what they've been producing for YEARS.

If I put a DCS sticker on my crossfire everybody will stay a car length back at the stop light:burnout:

If I put a DCS sticker on my crossfire everybody will stay a car length back at the stop light:burnout:

Or, they might just run your a$$ over!:happy0045:

DCS rules!!!!!!!!

DCS prepped crossfire:burnout:

ported crossfire:spank:

Jesus, all this bluster and BS over 33hp!!

Jesus, all this bluster and BS over 33hp!!

33 rear wheel HP:burnout:

33 rear wheel HP:burnout:

WHOA!! REAR wheel hp, he says! Stand back folks! This is big time!

For your own personal safety after you bolt this on..PLEASE.... be sure to wear your helmet and strap into your 5 point harness. If your car is not equipped with the harness it highly recommended to have one installed. The Hans device is optional.

And remember is not just the additional 33 rwhp, but there is also the increase in tq= 16

For your own personal safety after you bolt this on..PLEASE.... be sure to wear your helmet and strap into your 5 point harness. If your car is not equipped with the harness it highly recommended to have one installed. The Hans device is optional.

And remember is not just the additional 33 rwhp, but there is also the increase in tq= 16

Good point, should see 65 feet of rubber out of this crossfire.:beerbang:

CFI-EFI, it's not too late to place your order for one. Just send DCS a check for $460 and a written apology for bad mouthing their Renegade as you have been doing. With the written apology from you, they MAY sell you one.

You may as well join us. Because until you do, you're just beating a dead horse by running your present set up.
I hope you can document that accusation. I have never bad mouthed the Renegade. If you think I am wrong... PROVE IT! A clean sheet design of a replacement for a purposely compromised intake manifold HAS to be an improvement. What wouldn't be? The question is, how much?

Some of the know-nothings and do-nothings would prefer to sit on their donkeys and make libelous, slanderous, accusations, rather than use their time and energy to improve their cars. The "dead horse" you say I am beating, has been beating L98s, LT1s, and others for years, for little or no cost. All the while you have been sitting, waiting, and hoping for someone to come along to bail you out and do your bidding and thinking for you. If my no/low cost, home ported, intake, is half the improvement the $460.00 magical, miracle manifold is, it is a victory. Especially since your bank account is $460.00 lighter and you have nothing, so far, but aspirations. I've been enjoying the fruits of my labor, for years, while you have been twiddling your thumbs and beating your gums.

I am sick and tired of being called a liar, a cheat, and accused of feeling and saying things I haven't. Before anyone calls me a liar, they'd better be able to back it up. If someone thinks I've cheated somewhere, document it. If I am going to be accused of bad mouthing the Renegade, prove it. I am tired of groundless, unsubstantiated accusations from those that have no idea what they are talking about.

RACE ON!!!

I hope you can document that accusation. I have never bad mouthed the Renegade. If you think I am wrong... PROVE IT! A clean sheet design of a replacement for a purposely compromised intake manifold HAS to be an improvement. What wouldn't be? The question is, how much?

Some of the know-nothings and do-nothings would prefer to sit on their donkeys and make libelous, slanderous, accusations, rather than use their time and energy to improve their cars. The "dead horse" you say I am beating, has been beating L98s, LT1s, and others for years, for little or no cost. All the while you have been sitting, waiting, and hoping for someone to come along to bail you out and do your bidding and thinking for you. If my no/low cost, home ported, intake, is half the improvement the $460.00 magical, miracle manifold is, it is a victory. Especially since your bank account is $460.00 lighter and you have nothing, so far, but aspirations. I've been enjoying the fruits of my labor, for years, while you have been twiddling your thumbs and beating your gums.

I am sick and tired of being called a liar, a cheat, and accused of feeling and saying things I haven't. Before anyone calls me a liar, they'd better be able to back it up. If someone thinks I've cheated somewhere, document it. If I am going to be accused of bad mouthing the Renegade, prove it. I am tired of groundless, unsubstantiated accusations from those that have no idea what they are talking about.

RACE ON!!!

If you are tired of it why do you continue to post about the renegade intake manifold, by the way the renegade will be ready in about 3 weeks:rockon6rk: . You can still order it even after they have been casted. You should buy one and test it against your home ported intake manifold. The next time you take your intake off take some pictures, so we can see what you are bragging about:thumbsup:

Granted I am new to this forum but am not new to corvettes or cars. I was racing a 56 chev with a steel flip front end and 5:13 gears that my brother and I put a 409 in and built from scratch at the age of 16. Is the Renegade a good manifold? Who knows. Any improvement is an improvement. The thing that has struck me about this is some folks rabid promoting of something that hasn't even hit the marketplace yet. The bottom line is it's supposed to increase HP by 33 which is nothing to dismiss, but it isn't curing cancer nor will it turn a stock engine into a "tire shredding monster".

Granted I am new to this forum but am not new to corvettes or cars. I was racing a 56 chev with a steel flip front end and 5:13 gears that my brother and I put a 409 in and built from scratch at the age of 16. Is the Renegade a good manifold? Who knows. Any improvement is an improvement. The thing that has struck me about this is some folks rabid promoting of something that hasn't even hit the marketplace yet. The bottom line is it's supposed to increase HP by 33 which is nothing to dismiss, but it isn't curing cancer nor will it turn a stock engine into a "tire shredding monster".

Nobody said it cures cancer. You want to talk bottem line. The 84 crossfire stock is 205 hp at the flywheel:wheelchair: . With this new intake manifold it will have about 247 at the flywheel. I think that is worth the money and ease of installation. Well I guess the people that bought it will enjoy the power increase and the people that didn't all you will see is taillights.:beerbang:

And that is exactly what I'm talking about. You are just insufferable.

And that is exactly what I'm talking about. You are just insufferable.

Worst post ever:vomitbuddy: