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: The Gun Ban list is out


Blackhorse Zo6
03-11-2009, 02:17 PM
EVERYONE TAKE HEED!!!!

FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THAT FEARS YOUR GUNS!

Subject: The Gun Ban list is out

Here it is folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is
always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to
impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a
brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you
own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in
the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that
for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know
that you did. Please send this to everyone you can. It will come up for a
vote, and it might even be a secret vote if Madame Pelosi has her way, and
then it will be a done deal. ...thanks to Colonel Rus...Hal.
Right to own a gun Remember, The first step in establishing a dictatorship
is to disarm the citizens.
..
Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term
memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under
the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of
passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress) It serves as a framework for the new list
the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's
current plans and targets of opportunity, It's horrific. They're going
after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an
all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of
criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is
critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due
process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to
assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats
current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):
Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
M1 Carbine,
Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
AR-15,
Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15,
AR-10,
Thompson 1927,
Thompson M1;
AK,
AKM,
AKS,
AK-47,
AK-74,
ARM,
MAK90,
NHM 90,
NHM 91,
SA 85,
SA 93,
VEPR;
Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70,
Calico Liberty ,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
Fabrique National FN/FAL,
FN/LAR, or FNC,
Hi-Point20Carbine,
HK-91,
HK-93,
HK-94,
HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando,
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
Saiga,
SAR-8,
SAR-4800,
SKS with detachable magazine,
SLG 95,
SLR 95 or 96,
Steyr AU,
Tavor,
Uzi,
Galil and Uzi Sporter,
Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110,
MAC-10,
MAC-11, or MPA3,
Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
Uzi.
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG,
SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
Striker 12,
Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip,
see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable
magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine
capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:
Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic
rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use,
or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly
suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."
Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the
Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a
working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill
says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for
use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not
particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined
to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm
is suitable for use in a sporting event."
In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal
officers or the military is not suitable for the public. The last part is
particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose
just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what?
And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no
constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic
enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of
disarming the innocent.
Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
<http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm> http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm
Forward or send to every gun owner you know...
.....................:patriot:

Atomic Autosports
03-12-2009, 06:37 AM
Nope..never and I mean never will I turn in my guns...not going to happen don't care what law is passed. Stock up on ammo while you can. That is where the next bad will be.

camolightning
03-13-2009, 07:13 AM
Gremans are once again getting ready to turn in their guns, because of what happened there last week. Police did not catch the gun man alive, so as usual they don`t know what the guy was really up to. We all know what happened last time the Germans turned in their guns. The jerks in washington will eventually pass their gun laws and then all the
**** will hit the fan.

Atomic Autosports
03-13-2009, 11:10 AM
Gremans are once again getting ready to turn in their guns, because of what happened there last week. Police did not catch the gun man alive, so as usual they don`t know what the guy was really up to. We all know what happened last time the Germans turned in their guns. The jerks in washington will eventually pass their gun laws and then all the
**** will hit the fan.

They have been trying to do this for years...The NRA is a pretty strong org but eventually they will not be able to hold back some of these laws from passing. Scary when only the criminals will have guns, that may happen but I will never turn my guns in..never.

Corvettes of Washington
03-13-2009, 11:33 AM
So how do citizens fight something like this ?
Most of the members of congress are deaf ,dumb and blind on issues like this.

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/idaholegislatureonguncontrol26feb09.shtml

Corvettes of Washington
03-20-2009, 03:04 PM
Not only do the Feds want your guns.....

A shocking new gun control law recently introduced in Albany County is being labeled the most draconian piece of anti-second amendment legislation yet seen. The law requires buyers of all ammunition, even shotgun pellets, to provide their drivers license, state their purpose for buying the ammunition, and have the information retained and accessible by law enforcement for no less than 10 years.

Anyone buying rounds or shells, even .22s, for hunting or target shooting in Albany State, New York, would have to provide ID, declare the gun and have its serial number registered with the seller. Based on the information provided by the buyer as to the purpose of buying the ammunition, the seller could block the purchase.

The bill is known as “Local Law Number A For 2009″ and was introduced at the Albany Legislature on March 3rd.

Gun groups have slammed the law as the first step towards backdoor registration of rifles and shotguns.


H.R. 45
http://gunowners.org/hr45ana.htm


Gun control: advocated by criminals and politicians everywhere!!!



“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA – ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.”

~ Heinrich Himmler; Reichsfuhrer-SS