: The Vets always get the shaft
Blackhorse Zo6 02-19-2009, 08:04 PM VETERANS ARE LOW PRIORITY IN STIMULUS PACKAGE
> >
> > ACORN among Organizations Receiving More
> >
> > Washington , D.C. - Today, Congressman Steve Buyer of Indiana , Ranking
> > Member
> > of the House Committee on Veterans' Affairs, issued the following
> > statement
> > after the final text of the economic stimulus package was unveiled last
> > night.
> >
> > "Of the numerous flaws in the large economic recovery spending bill,
none
> > is more shameful than the obvious disregard it holds for veterans,"
Buyer
> > said. "I find it appalling that this bill provides access to $2 billion
for
> > ACORN, $30 million for the salt-marsh harvest mouse in the San Francisco
Bay
> > area, and millions to purchase 'green' golf carts, instead of bettering
the
> > lives of veterans. I hope everyone will pause to consider that those
who have
> > put their lives on the line to defend our right to vote are a lower
priority
> > than an organization like ACORN, which has been accused of unlawful
voter
> > registration. I don't know of a starker example of the Democrats'
> > misplaced priorities."
> >
> > "While pleased my request for $1 billion was adopted to accelerate
> > construction projects in the Veterans' Health Administration, I am
> > disappointed my proposals to add $1 billion for VA loan guarantees to
> > veteran-owned small businesses, $357 million to increase training and
job
> > placement, and $10 million for homeless women veterans and veterans with
> > children was not included. These proposals would have helped veterans
and
> > our economy. It appears the Democrat leadership was more interested in
> > special projects than pro-growth economic policies that create and
sustain
> > jobs. These are distinct policy differences for which our economy will
> > suffer, and Americans will pay the price."
> >
> > "I also do not understand how more than $100 million for non-citizen,
> > non-resident, Filipino Veterans of World War II will help stimulate the
> > U.S. economy. I hope Americans will stop to ponder the distorted values
of
> > those who crafted this bill."
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m37brat 02-20-2009, 05:19 AM The total disregard and shameful treatment of our veterans is not a Democrat issue. The entire "ruling class" has never given the respect or support our veterans deserve. We continually stand and point fingers at this "Democrat" or that "Republican" because we are trapped in the belief that there is an ounce of difference between the "Parties". They rile us up about gay rights, abortion or how much someone's dress cost while they actually are meeting in back rooms planning how to steal the next dollar. As long as they can pit one group against another, they win. It doesn't matter if it's white against black, rich against poor or Democrat against Republican. Just keep us split and they can get whatever "they" want-no limit!
If you remove the yellow stick on ribbons from our cars, it is very difficult to point to any instance of real support from either group of thief's. God help us if our younger generations in this country ever wake up and realize that their entire future has been stolen or squandered by these political puppets. There has never been any improvements in the treatment of our veterans without someone with a national megaphone shinning a lite on how these cockroaches are "taking care" of our countries finest young citizens. If in doubt, check what progress we have made after the horrendous problems that were exposed in the VA hospitals were televised. Once the story moves on, so does the correction! We are going to need more than a change in ruling party to correct any of the problems that confront any of us.
There are dozens of organizations that support our troops. Some ask for our money but if you are not in a position to make a dollar donation there are many, many more that seek non monetary support. You can send a letter, visit a vet in a VA hospital or help build a house for a vet that has lost more than time. Don't wait for the political hacks to recognize the service of our sons and daughters.
Do your part now. Don't wait for a politician! They are never going to do what is right.
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sting75ray 02-20-2009, 09:53 AM VETERANS ARE LOW PRIORITY IN STIMULUS PACKAGE
> >
> > ACORN among Organizations Receiving More
> >
> > Washington , D.C. - Today, Congressman Steve Buyer of Indiana , Ranking
> > Member
> > of the House Committee on Veterans' Affairs, issued the following
> > statement
> > after the final text of the economic stimulus package was unveiled last
> > night.
> >
> > "Of the numerous flaws in the large economic recovery spending bill,
none
> > is more shameful than the obvious disregard it holds for veterans,"
Buyer
> > said. "I find it appalling that this bill provides access to $2 billion
for
> > ACORN, $30 million for the salt-marsh harvest mouse in the San Francisco
Bay
> > area, and millions to purchase 'green' golf carts, instead of bettering
the
> > lives of veterans. I hope everyone will pause to consider that those
who have
> > put their lives on the line to defend our right to vote are a lower
priority
> > than an organization like ACORN, which has been accused of unlawful
voter
> > registration. I don't know of a starker example of the Democrats'
> > misplaced priorities."
> >
> > "While pleased my request for $1 billion was adopted to accelerate
> > construction projects in the Veterans' Health Administration, I am
> > disappointed my proposals to add $1 billion for VA loan guarantees to
> > veteran-owned small businesses, $357 million to increase training and
job
> > placement, and $10 million for homeless women veterans and veterans with
> > children was not included. These proposals would have helped veterans
and
> > our economy. It appears the Democrat leadership was more interested in
> > special projects than pro-growth economic policies that create and
sustain
> > jobs. These are distinct policy differences for which our economy will
> > suffer, and Americans will pay the price."
> >
> > "I also do not understand how more than $100 million for non-citizen,
> > non-resident, Filipino Veterans of World War II will help stimulate the
> > U.S. economy. I hope Americans will stop to ponder the distorted values
of
> > those who crafted this bill."
................................ :patriot:
It is bad when a low life draft dodger like Clinton spends 8 years in the White House while many of our veterans are living in low income housing or on the street. And now Obama wants to give more money to support men other than our own.:wtf:
camolightning 02-21-2009, 05:58 AM Give the money to the vets and and they will make good use of it.
3rd One 02-21-2009, 07:42 AM God help us if our younger generations in this country ever wake up and realize that their entire future has been stolen or squandered by these political puppets.
m37 you are right on. The 'kids' unfortunately are very much caught up in the pop-culture kind of things and, I believe, are not paying attention. I don't fault them for it. They are buying into the slogans because they hear it repeatedly - so it must be correct. And then they get behind it. And then it grows to absolute truth.
My high school senior relayed a story last week about being out at the Mexican restaurant with friends - they actually got to talkin' about politics- and the one girl starts right up about how Obama needs to be more like FDR, she's hoping he'll do this, that will fix everything. My kid didn't buy it but let it go (he rolled his eyes and looked at his friend Jimmy who understood and just grinned). The point is that is what they've been fed, its' easy to believe, and they believe. Their economic futures and freedoms are hanging in the balance and they're just not getting it yet.
I know they need to do the things 'kids' do and when you're 16-30 yrs old lots of other things matter. Something's going to wake them all up I'd have to say, but it 's probably too late.
camolightning 02-22-2009, 05:17 AM I am a combat Vet. Spent meany nights at landing zones that were burned out of the Jungle with agent orange. As a result I have been battleing cancer for 20 years. If it wasn`t for the VA I would have been dead long ago. If it wasn`t for the draft I wouldn`t have this affliction. Out of the last eight years the VA has been fully funded only two years.
The Bush admenistration tryed to get the VFW to stand with them against the Veteren Bill Of Rights. I know I also voted for the guy in 2000
:doh:
m37brat 02-22-2009, 09:25 AM I am a combat Vet. Spent meany nights at landing zones that were burned out of the Jungle with agent orange. As a result I have been battleing cancer for 20 years. If it wasn`t for the VA I would have been dead long ago. If it wasn`t for the draft I wouldn`t have this affliction. Out of the last eight years the VA has been fully funded only two years.
The Bush admenistration tryed to get the VFW to stand with them against the Veteren Bill Of Rights. I know I also voted for the guy in 2000
:doh:
The horror of the fact it wasn't only Bush. This has been going on since at least Nixon. While the broken kids were coming back from Vietnam by the tens of thousands, the government was cutting the budgets of the VA and closing hospitals. There were nightmare stories of injured vets sitting in their own waste for hours and hours because there just weren't enough nurses to care for the numbers in their care. Once the a world class medical system the VA became a warehouse for our throw away generations. I don't fault the people serving our vets at the VA. I am sure most of them are caring and dedicated professionals but you can't make a silk purse from a sows ear. I recently read an article on the increase in suicide among active duty troops. The governments solution was to deny the facts and claim most of the suicides were the result of existing mental problems of the young troops. Even if that were true, while are we allowing young people with mental issues into the service?
My fear that this problem will not be solved any time soon. Combat vets have been given short shrift since the revolution. It is easier than ever to hide these problems because the fifth estate is completely owned and controlled by the political class. Oversight is a thing of the past. Any regular citizen that raises their voice is either dismissed or destroyed. The propaganda generated bu Washington would make Hitler jealous.
I look at the thousands of young people coming back from the service and fear that the large corporations that have made billions we see no obligation to help these people with a chance for a job. Many of these corporations are even ignoring there obligation, under the law, to take back reserve and national guard troops to give them their jobs back. They are caught up in a system where we ask to few to sacrifice and the are worried that these young people will be called upon again and again at the cost of businesses.
camolightning 02-22-2009, 10:08 AM Being well ajusted to a profoundly sick and averent socity is not a sign of good mental health. The young vets that I Meet have some very bad injurys. The IED`S the boys are up against produce eye injuries and loss of limb.
The effects of PTSD on one of our friends, caused him to shoot himself when he received orders to return to Iraq for second tour of duty.
The corporations that are making Trillions while
our military is being depeleted need to return
alot to the fighting men and women of this country. We have some very good VA hospitals
here in Norhtern California and Northern Navada. At one time the VA hospital in Reno was considered one of the top 3 best goverment hospitals. But these hospitals are filling beyond their capacity. Not helping these
guys and gals who are coming back from these
combat zones is a horrible.
sting75ray 02-22-2009, 10:11 AM Being well ajusted to a profoundly sick and averent socity is not a sign of good mental health. The young vets that I Meet have some very bad injurys. The IED`S the boys are up against produce eye injuries and loss of limb.
The effects of PTSD on one of our friends, caused him to shoot himself when he received orders to return to Iraq for second tour of duty.
The corporations that are making Trillions while
our military is being depeleted need to return
alot to the fighting men and women of this country. We have some very good VA hospitals
here in Norhtern California and Northern Navada. At one time the VA hospital in Reno was considered one of the top 3 best goverment hospitals. But these hospitals are filling beyond their capacity. Not helping these
guys and gals who are coming back from these
combat zones is a horrible.
The government would rather help illegal immigrants than help our own men and women.:wtf:
Blackhorse Zo6 02-22-2009, 07:41 PM The government would rather help illegal immigrants than help our own men and women.:wtf:
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!...........:patriot:
Atomic Autosports 02-25-2009, 08:40 AM The government would rather help illegal immigrants than help our own men and women.:wtf:
This country should be ashamed of how we treat our men and women who have served this country. Those who gave their life and are willing to give their life without thought...the ultimate sacrifice and return home from war with severe health issue and get almost no support from our government.
If we do not take care of our own first, it will only get worse as time goes on. It will become acceptable not to be there for our military and the family's they leave behind.
To me we should hold our brave men & women that have served and the family's the fallen left behind as national treasures. That includes our Police and Firefighters, what is wrong with our priorities.
To those that want to do more....do it. There is a lot we can do to help those who have served. I support the Wounder warrior project at www.woundedwarriorproject.org they do great things for the returning wounded....
To those who served...thank you :patriot:
m37brat 02-25-2009, 10:50 AM This country should be ashamed of how we treat our men and women who have served this country. Those who gave their life and are willing to give their life without thought...the ultimate sacrifice and return home from war with severe health issue and get almost no support from our government.
If we do not take care of our own first, it will only get worse as time goes on. It will become acceptable not to be there for our military and the family's they leave behind.
To me we should hold our brave men & women that have served and the family's the fallen left behind as national treasures. That includes our Police and Firefighters, what is wrong with our priorities.
To those that want to do more....do it. There is a lot we can do to help those who have served. I support the Wounder warrior project at www.woundedwarriorproject.org (http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org) they do great things for the returning wounded....
To those who served...thank you :patriot:
I checked out the site you listed and it looks like a great attempt to help our wounded servicemen. The sad fact is that the site reinforces what I said. The SOB's who made billions have off of the limbs of our young people have not gone to this site and I am sure are not offering employment opportunities for these kids. The site has 2 job listing both over 5 months old and both from the site itself. God help the country that can't/won't help these people! When you have a choice, support the companies that support our troops.
Atomic Autosports 02-25-2009, 12:32 PM I checked out the site you listed and it looks like a great attempt to help our wounded servicemen. The sad fact is that the site reinforces what I said. The SOB's who made billions have off of the limbs of our young people have not gone to this site and I am sure are not offering employment opportunities for these kids. The site has 2 job listing both over 5 months old and both from the site itself. God help the country that can't/won't help these people! When you have a choice, support the companies that support our troops.
Now that is how we should be thinking!!! You know many movements work to pool resources to boycot those who do not support a cause....now if we can get some attention from the fat cats...who cares if they are helping because they care as long as they do.
darren6114 02-26-2009, 06:19 PM I am very thankful for how you all feel about those serving in iraq and afganastan and that you support your troops. I am also very thankful for organizations like the Marine Corps Association and the vfw. I will admit though that support has grown since the war started but not by those in power but by those that have lost someone due to 9/11 or in the war. Only during war time has this nation ever been thankful of its vet's and never will the government be thankful.
m37brat 02-27-2009, 03:05 AM I am very thankful for how you all feel about those serving in iraq and afganastan and that you support your troops. I am also very thankful for organizations like the Marine Corps Association and the vfw. I will admit though that support has grown since the war started but not by those in power but by those that have lost someone due to 9/11 or in the war. Only during war time has this nation ever been thankful of its vet's and never will the government be thankful.
I really wish I could agree with you about the support growing since the war started. I find that the support has actually lessened. When the war started we had the "media" traveling with units and we saw the war every day. Now not only do you not see any coverage but most average people are so overwhelmed with their economic problems that these kids are left to languish in the streets. Last summer I took a memorial to shows and cruises and couldn't get 10 people to stop and look at it. Ask any mother that has lost a son or daughter how much support they receive after the flags are put away. About the only people I talk to that get it are usually Vietnam Vets who saw the "support" first hand. They get it.
I know I keep beating the same drum, but it breaks my heart to see this happen and I really don't know how we can change how people feel. Until the country goes to war, there will be very little debate much less support. I hate the draft but it may be the only way we wake people up. As long as war is free we will keeping looking for reasons to fight them.
Look into the face of this young man and tell me we get it!
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darren6114 02-27-2009, 05:11 AM And again I do agree with you that at the start of the war it was alot greater than it is now but support for the military is still higher than before the war. Programs to help out wounded troops however suck, well the majority of them. I know that i donate to the wounded warriors fund and I know there are alot of programs out there for those of us that have served in oef/oif but I have seen to many times young marines come home and not want to go back over because they thought the war was pointless. Not because they were scared, but because there was no support from there families, friends, or there country. It is very hard to motivate A marine that what we are doing is right when he goes home and a church or some other group is protesting us being in iraq.
Atomic Autosports 02-27-2009, 11:46 AM Bottom line folks..and of course this is just my opinion, we should not have to have a war or casualties of war or a 9/11 for the people in this country to support our military or the purpose of the military. I saddens me that over 4,250 men & women as of late have lost their lives for their country and we have protest and negative media...how about some gratitude. Nothing like a guy sitting on his fat *** worried about if his team is going to win this weekend while we have people dying for us.
If half of the Americans put the same effort to support their country/military as they do in their lawn what a better country this would be. I noticed after 9/11 there were many more people flying the flag....but I see that has died off as well.....what will it take to wake people up. It seems like we can get behind a cause but lose intrest after time passes, we have a short memory.
I love my country and fly my flag, I support the troops and our military as best I can, I should be doing more no dought. But honestly what should this not be the norm for every American.
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