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: Sway bars?


Texas King
11-26-2007, 08:12 AM
Whats a good sway bar system that will improve handleing on 04 C5? I have looked around and have noticed a few different manufactures, and all of them claim to be the best? You know how that works, so wanted to get some ideas from others who have actually used different ones?

SleeperC5
11-26-2007, 10:56 AM
I changed out my stock sway bars for a set of Z06 sway bars. Now all I need is to upgrade the springs and shocks and I'll be good to go !

So to answer your question........ go with a set of Z06 sway bars.

tom snitzer
11-26-2007, 05:19 PM
Three basic choices that most people go with in order of increasing stiffness:

Hodgkist(good street choice, combine with Bilstein shocks)
T1(for HPDE, occassional road racing, combine with 2 way coil overs)
Pfadt(full on road racing, combine with 3 way coil overs)

For the street, marginal reasons to stiffen up ride. OEM handles great. On the track it's a different story.

I road race weekly and therefore have messed around with suspension upgrades. If I didn't RR, I would leave everything stock. Good luck.

hammatime
11-27-2007, 07:12 AM
Three basic choices that most people go with in order of increasing stiffness:

Hodgkist(good street choice, combine with Bilstein shocks)
T1(for HPDE, occassional road racing, combine with 2 way coil overs)
Pfadt(full on road racing, combine with 3 way coil overs)

For the street, marginal reasons to stiffen up ride. OEM handles great. On the track it's a different story.

I road race weekly and therefore have messed around with suspension upgrades. If I didn't RR, I would leave everything stock. Good luck.
I will agree with Tom here. ALthough I don't RR, I was fortunate to have a friend that does and he took me for a ride in his RR Vette and then back in mine and really showed me that unless I am BIG into the RR scene I will have a hard time out driving my stock setup!!

GhostRider
11-28-2007, 07:08 AM
Three basic choices that most people go with in order of increasing stiffness:

Hodgkist(good street choice, combine with Bilstein shocks)
T1(for HPDE, occassional road racing, combine with 2 way coil overs)
Pfadt(full on road racing, combine with 3 way coil overs)

For the street, marginal reasons to stiffen up ride. OEM handles great. On the track it's a different story.

I road race weekly and therefore have messed around with suspension upgrades. If I didn't RR, I would leave everything stock. Good luck.

Whats the difference between 2 way and 3 way coil overs? I thought a coil over was a coil over? :confused:

tstar
11-28-2007, 10:38 PM
I agree with Tom, the stock set-up is more then adequate for the road and some HPDE. If anything, I would just swap out the plastic end links with metal ones.

And paint the rear bar red (that's good for 10 rwhp!)! :lol:

howsmyrear
11-29-2007, 06:24 AM
What is HPDE? I am not familiar with the acronym.

tstar
11-29-2007, 02:05 PM
High Performance Driving Event.... A performance driving school were you drive your own car following a pro around a track, to put it in it's simplest terms...

Obscurity
11-30-2007, 06:39 AM
High Performance Driving Event.... A performance driving school were you drive your own car following a pro around a track, to put it in it's simplest terms...

Not to get off the topic of this tread but do you have to have roll cage and all sorts of safety equipment installed in your car to drive you car at one of these tracks?

tstar
11-30-2007, 11:15 PM
Just a helmet, I'd check with your insurence company though just in case....

howsmyrear
12-01-2007, 06:12 AM
High Performance Driving Event.... A performance driving school were you drive your own car following a pro around a track, to put it in it's simplest terms...
Thank you! I now know that this is like Willow Springs and Spring Mountain, or am I still off?:)

tom snitzer
12-02-2007, 06:40 AM
Whats the difference between 2 way and 3 way coil overs? I thought a coil over was a coil over? :confused:

Moton Coil over product descriptions(below)

The difference is the additional ability to control high speed vs. low speed bump adjustment. 3 way coil overs require a very experienced race mechanic to properly sort out for a race car.

The Double Adjustable Moton Damper features 15 positions of bump adjustment on the remote reservoir and 15 positions in rebound on top of the piston rod. Each adjustment done to the damper (each click) is very noticeable to the driver. Our dampers are designed to perform at low speeds as well as high speed velocities which gives you total control regardless of the conditions. The reservoir is connected to the damper by a high pressure hose and is equipped with swivel banjo’s to easy for easy installation of the canisters in the car regardless of the position.

The Triple Adjustable Moton Damper features 15 positions of high speed bump adjustment and 15 positions in rebound on top of the piston rod. The triple adjustable damper features an additional 6 positions of low speed bump adjustment. The low speed bump adjuster is very effective in helping to control body roll while adding to turn in and is effective in controlling pitch and squat.

Texas King
12-03-2007, 07:39 AM
Three basic choices that most people go with in order of increasing stiffness:

Hodgkist(good street choice, combine with Bilstein shocks)
T1(for HPDE, occassional road racing, combine with 2 way coil overs)
Pfadt(full on road racing, combine with 3 way coil overs)

For the street, marginal reasons to stiffen up ride. OEM handles great. On the track it's a different story.

I road race weekly and therefore have messed around with suspension upgrades. If I didn't RR, I would leave everything stock. Good luck.


Thank you for your help, but do I need to get different shocks with a sway bar? Will I notice anything just sway bar upgrade? thanks again.

tom snitzer
12-03-2007, 12:32 PM
A stiffer sway bar will reduce body roll. Usually folks do that in combo with a shock upgrade.

I don't know exactly what the impact will be to change sway bar with stock shocks.

Obscurity
12-03-2007, 05:29 PM
Just a helmet, I'd check with your insurence company though just in case....

Insurance company? Oh to see if they will cover me at track? Do tracks have additional insurance you can take out if my insurance company doesn't cover? I bet its PRICEY!

tom snitzer
12-03-2007, 07:08 PM
Most insurance won't cover HPDEs. You can buy insurance for road race cars. It's very expensive.

smokinvette2
12-04-2007, 05:21 AM
Tom, quick question for you on suspension. What are the benefits of going to a thicker tunnel plate? The stock one is 1/8. Thanks!

Greg.

Texas King
12-05-2007, 05:37 AM
I changed out my stock sway bars for a set of Z06 sway bars. Now all I need is to upgrade the springs and shocks and I'll be good to go !

So to answer your question........ go with a set of Z06 sway bars.

Where and how much did you get this for? thanks!

Tex

tom snitzer
12-05-2007, 09:57 AM
Tom, quick question for you on suspension. What are the benefits of going to a thicker tunnel plate? The stock one is 1/8. Thanks!

Greg.

I have a thickened tunnel plate installed in my street car. It supposedly stiffens up the lateral stability of the car and deflects some heat that would otherwise get into the drivers compartment thru the center panel. It's hard to say for sure whether it works or not.

I had the car apart at the time so installing it was quick and not expensive.

My track car project has a 10 pt cage going in, which provides considerably more stiffening. So I'm not use the tunnel plate this time around.

TMRCIN
12-05-2007, 11:54 AM
Hello All. The HPDE is a part of NASA an orginization with regions thruout the country. I have raced in SCCA for 12 years in a sports racer and now most of the SCCA Regions are holding Track Days on Friday befor race weekends. The track days are for street legal cars and some full race cars. It is seat belts and helmet only but in most likley no convertables. Erv

smokinvette
12-05-2007, 12:05 PM
Hello All. The HPDE is a part of NASA an orginization with regions thruout the country. I have raced in SCCA for 12 years in a sports racer and now most of the SCCA Regions are holding Track Days on Friday befor race weekends. The track days are for street legal cars and some full race cars. It is seat belts and helmet only but in most likley no convertables. Erv

Welcome to SmokinVette.com TMRCIN, I'm Alex the forum Admin, you'll find a great group of Corvette Enthusiast here that I'm sure you will fit in just well. 12 years racing? Your up to the gold plated coffee cup! :smack:

See you around!

Alex

Texas King
12-14-2007, 05:18 AM
I have a thickened tunnel plate installed in my street car. It supposedly stiffens up the lateral stability of the car and deflects some heat that would otherwise get into the drivers compartment thru the center panel. It's hard to say for sure whether it works or not.

I had the car apart at the time so installing it was quick and not expensive.

My track car project has a 10 pt cage going in, which provides considerably more stiffening. So I'm not use the tunnel plate this time around.

Thanks for all the intell, I know my way around the motor of cars, but kind of hazy when it comes to the suspension stuff!