I have heard several people saying that the C5 Corvette was a cheaply made car because of some of the materials that were used in making it. I do not feel this way, how many of you feel that it is cheap?

I have extensively read the design history of the C5 and realize that they delayed bringing it out in order the make sure that all the bugs were worked out. Being of a technical nature
I believe it was the most technically advanced vehicle at the time of introduction. There are features my 97 has that are being incorporated into the cars of today. Corvette engineering during development took one out on a test track and ran a full tank of fuel thru it at full throttle (steady 175 mph) then took it apart to see what items showed wear - and tweaked those parts for dependability.:patriot:

cheaply may not be the right word. i think it's the best reasonably priced car for the amount of sports car thrill factor. when i read or hear of people making references to "cheaply made", they are usually referring to the stock interior monotone plastics in the car. who cares? you can spend $100K-200K for an "exotic" car with a fancier interior with about the same performance. it also pisses some people off that a small block V8 with 16 valves and pushrods can compete at such a high level. for the money, i think it's one of the best sports cars that can be driven daily on the planet.

Whatever!!! I like mine even if it is made cheap!!!!

I had an 02 Z06 and did not think it was built cheaply. I thought the quality of workmanship was good. Parts of the dash could have been improved on, but for the price point the cars are delivered at I think overall they are well built cars.

With that being said, I think the design and quality of materials is better in the current model, especially the '09's than the C5's.

I still like the C5's alot, and wish I did not sell my '02.

I have had a few minor probs w/ my 2000 MN6 Coupe! I still love this car!



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I had an 02 Z06 and did not think it was built cheaply. I thought the quality of workmanship was good. Parts of the dash could have been improved on, but for the price point the cars are delivered at I think overall they are well built cars.

With that being said, I think the design and quality of materials is better in the current model, especially the '09's than the C5's.

I still like the C5's alot, and wish I did not sell my '02.
I tryed to tell you get the wife's out of the garage & keep ZO6 to .I knew you would miss the ZO6 . .How ever you could swap cars with me for a month :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:.............:patriot:

Who are these "people" that say the car was made cheap?? I'll bet you they drive toyotas or hondas and are stuck on the thought that *** cars are so much better in quality than US cars. Fact is that is not even close to true anymore. Give me a supra or nsx or any "quality" Asian car and I'll eat em for lunch with my cheap v8 pushrod car!!!:thumbsup3:

Who are these "people" that say the car was made cheap?? I'll bet you they drive toyotas or hondas and are stuck on the thought that *** cars are so much better in quality than US cars. Fact is that is not even close to true anymore. Give me a supra or nsx or any "quality" *** car and I'll eat em for lunch with my cheap v8 pushrod car!!!:thumbsup3:
:iagree: If you listened to every azzhat that ran his mouth with no knowledge your in trouble, always going to be haters, always. Personally i love those guys

The C5 is a good overall design. The problem is that any car is only as good as its component parts and in the case of a C5 those component parts were made by hundreds of different suppliers some of which have no real quality control. I have only had my C5 for a short time and have had no problems but I bought it from a Chevy dealer and they gave me a sheet of paper with everything that had been fixed on the car from day 1. The car only has 63,000 miles but has had to have things fixed 31 times and towed to the dealership twice. Among the items replaced were the powertrain control module(twice), accelerator pedal, front wheel bearing and hup, body control module, primary accessory drive tensioner(twice), etc. These type of things scream lack of quality control, especially when they have to be replaced twice with only 63k on the car. Whether these things equate to a cheaply built car is a matter of opinion. I have had Hondas that I bought new that never had a single thing go wrong for over 100k.........

The C5 is a good overall design. The problem is that any car is only as good as its component parts and in the case of a C5 those component parts were made by hundreds of different suppliers some of which have no real quality control. I have only had my C5 for a short time and have had no problems but I bought it from a Chevy dealer and they gave me a sheet of paper with everything that had been fixed on the car from day 1. The car only has 63,000 miles but has had to have things fixed 31 times and towed to the dealership twice. Among the items replaced were the powertrain control module(twice), accelerator pedal, front wheel bearing and hup, body control module, primary accessory drive tensioner(twice), etc. These type of things scream lack of quality control, especially when they have to be replaced twice with only 63k on the car. Whether these things equate to a cheaply built car is a matter of opinion. I have had Hondas that I bought new that never had a single thing go wrong for over 100k.........Id say you got a bad egg bro

I tryed to tell you get the wife's out of the garage & keep ZO6 to .I knew you would miss the ZO6 . .How ever you could swap cars with me for a month :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:.............:patriot:

Will you pay for all of the gas and tickets?:rofl: :rofl:

Whatever!!! I like mine even if it is made cheap!!!!

lol!:rofl: :rofl:

Of course its "cheap". Its a Chevrolet. If it wasn't cheap, it would be a Buick :rofl:

Who are these "people" that say the car was made cheap?? I'll bet you they drive toyotas or hondas and are stuck on the thought that *** cars are so much better in quality than US cars. Fact is that is not even close to true anymore. Give me a supra or nsx or any "quality" *** car and I'll eat em for lunch with my cheap v8 pushrod car!!!:thumbsup3:

"***"...what are you a WWII vet?:hater:

Unfortunately, the people you have been speaking with to hear this are not very well informed.

The design of the car was revolutionary from the ground up. It is a value car, this much is true. The C5 Corvette was a $100,000 car that you could buy for $50,000 when it was released. It bested all but the most expensive exoctics in its day. The SMC and RRIM body panels were state of the art. The motor and performance speak for themselves. The technology and innovation were miles ahead of their competition at the time. It really did set the bar for a performance bargain sportscar.

"It really did set the bar for a performance bargain sportscar.":nopity:

Loosely translated, it was built cheap:thumbsup:

Just enjoy, if it was not built cheap we could not afford one:ownedbutton:

"It really did set the bar for a performance bargain sportscar.":nopity:

Loosely translated, it was built cheap:thumbsup:

Just enjoy, if it was not built cheap we could not afford one:ownedbutton:

:willy_nilly: There is a huge difference between value and cheap. The Corvette is engineered for value. Don't put words in my mouth and don't "loosely translate" what I have to say. The Corvette was built to be affordable, not cheap. :banghead:

Will you pay for all of the gas and tickets?:rofl: :rofl:
:nopity: I don't
think so but I will pay for the repairs to my car you know how cheap there made .:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ....................:patriot:

I have heard several people saying that the C5 Corvette was a cheaply made car because of some of the materials that were used in making it. I do not feel this way, how many of you feel that it is cheap?


Yes they are cheaply made and I own 2 of them:thumbsup3:

"***"...what are you a WWII vet?:hater:

a. he's not a hater... instead he's an American with the freedon to talk the way he wants to.

b. if he is a WWII Veteren, then thank him for his service - instead of trying to find fault.

Thanks Mercury for backing me up:thumbsup3:

a. he's not a hater... instead he's an American with the freedon to talk the way he wants to.

b. if he is a WWII Veteren, then thank him for his service - instead of trying to find fault.


:iagree: Say it like it is:thumbsup3:

The C5 is a good overall design. The problem is that any car is only as good as its component parts and in the case of a C5 those component parts were made by hundreds of different suppliers some of which have no real quality control. I have only had my C5 for a short time and have had no problems but I bought it from a Chevy dealer and they gave me a sheet of paper with everything that had been fixed on the car from day 1. The car only has 63,000 miles but has had to have things fixed 31 times and towed to the dealership twice. Among the items replaced were the power train control module(twice), accelerator pedal, front wheel bearing and hub, body control module, primary accessory drive tensioner(twice), etc. These type of things scream lack of quality control, especially when they have to be replaced twice with only 63k on the car. Whether these things equate to a cheaply built car is a matter of opinion. I have had Honda's that I bought new that never had a single thing go wrong for over 100k.........
The C5 you had probably was nerver taken care 63,000 on & it could had the Hell driven out of it from day 1. Your bought your Honda New & you took better care of it .
My wife has a 2009 Toytoa Camery with 12,000 miles on it & the right rear hub had to be replaced. So
what Sh@$ happens & it has never been abused so it's just one of those things . & it's not a QC the problem it 's sometimes you get a bad Egg ( never been taken care of for 63,000 miles ) like BlucollarZ said .................:patriot:

Nah, the car looks brand new, interior and exterior are perfect and I do not think it has ever been driven in the rain. Underneath it is also like new. Hopefully it is just the opposite, that the original owner was a fanatic and had things fixed that were imagined bad. As it stands right now the car is not only perfect cosmetically, but also perfect mechanically and electronically. It came with a 2000 mile/1 month bumper to bumper warrantee and I could not find one thing during that period to take it back for. I went thru everything and checked everything including all the code banks. Anyway, I have my fingers crossed.

Nah, the car looks brand new, interior and exterior are perfect and I do not think it has ever been driven in the rain. Underneath it is also like new. Hopefully it is just the opposite, that the original owner was a fanatic and had things fixed that were imagined bad. As it stands right now the car is not only perfect cosmetically, but also perfect mechanically and electronically. It came with a 2000 mile/1 month bumper to bumper warrantee and I could not find one thing during that period to take it back for. I went thru everything and checked everything including all the code banks. Anyway, I have my fingers crossed.

Well that's good we all will cross our fingres & hope for the best ...................:patriot:

BTW, I flew AC119K gunships over there call sign "Stinger" in 1972. Did lots of TICs when not killing trucks on the trail.............

BTW, I flew AC119K gunships over there call sign "Stinger" in 1972. Did lots of TICs when not killing trucks on the trail.............
Glad you made it back. Like I was in a uh1d & H model ...................:patriot:

I think they are great cars, allot of technology went into them even by todays standards.

Not in my book!

a. he's not a hater... instead he's an American with the freedon to talk the way he wants to.

b. if he is a WWII Veteren, then thank him for his service - instead of trying to find fault.

a. sounds like it when you use derogatory names...true we have freedom to sometimes talk the way we want, even hateful, but that doesn't mean he isn't an ***.

b. I thank all veterans including my father for their service to this county of which i am a proud american.

a. sounds like it when you use derogatory names....

In your opinon it's derogatory.

This may be a surprise to you, but your decisions about how you conduct your life do not become mandatory edics for your neighbors, family, or internet friends.

PM's received, I have much respect for each one of you so I hope you all can understand my position here. We all know the downfalls of "other" Corvette forums... and it has to do with certain things people say or do.

Now coming from a strong military back ground myself and military family tree that goes back a couple world wars, I can appreciate the pride for stars and glory. There are certain words that we don't need to use on a public forum, as some may see this as disrespectful... Certain words that describe ethnic back grounds that we know will push people's buttons... lets stay clear of these.

Again... I hope you all can see the position that I'm in here. Thank you for your understanding.

Alex

PM's received, I have much respect for each one of you so I hope you all can understand my position here. We all know the downfalls of "other" Corvette forums... and it has to do with certain things people say or do.

Now coming from a strong military back ground myself and military family tree that goes back a couple world wars, I can appreciate the pride for stars and glory. There are certain words that we don't need to use on a public forum, as some may see this as disrespectful... Certain words that describe ethnic back grounds that we know will push people's buttons... lets stay clear of these.

Again... I hope you all can see the position that I'm in here. Thank you for your understanding.

Alex
:iagree: Can't we all get along this just starting a New Year come on fellow Vette owners ...........:patriot:

If the forum wants to restrict certain words and phrases; then they are within their rights as owners to do this.

And that specific is a flag waiving right to celebrate as well... private ownership rights !!!

But I did not see intervention by a moderator, nor was the "curse word filter" setup to eliminate this word. So at the time it was typed... it was not forum "bad".

All I witnessed was a boy immitating one of his college professors ... by trying to dictate to others as to how they should speak.

That will never be gotten-away with.

The problem wasn't with the then forum-legal word, it was with the unwarranted reaction.

So the word gets axed. So be it. I hope the reactionary is being dealt with as well.

If the forum wants to restrict certain words and phrases; then they are within their rights as owners to do this.

And that specific is a flag waiving right to celebrate as well... private ownership rights !!!

But I did not see intervention by a moderator, nor was the "curse word filter" setup to eliminate this word. So at the time it was typed... it was not forum "bad".

All I witnessed was a boy immitating one of his college professors ... by trying to dictate to others as to how they should speak.

That will never be gotten-away with.

The problem wasn't with the then forum-legal word, it was with the unwarranted reaction.

So the word gets axed. So be it. I hope the reactionary is being dealt with as well.



"All I witnessed was a boy immitating one of his college professors ... by trying to dictate to others as to how they should speak." Is this referenced to me? I'm flattered, unfortunately, there is no imitating, those words are mine. I don't play games nor into theatrics. You know certain things would not be tolerated on other forums... this is a fact. I don't want to come across as a a$$. So my message is delivered in the best way that I can put it. You are right, that word was not included in the sites filter. Personally the thought that someone would use a controversial "ethnic" word on this site never even crossed my mind.

Again thank you for your understanding.

Alex

Is this referenced to me?

Alex; no... not even close.

It was the person who originally took the thread off-topic by complaining about the use of a word.

I can only hope this troublemaker was told to contact a moderator when things like this come up; and to not try and police the site themselves.

Alex; no... not even close.

It was the person who originally took the thread off-topic by complaining about the use of a word.

I can only hope this troublemaker was told to contact a moderator when things like this come up; and to not try and police the site themselves.

I agree with you Mike. It also shows the mature attitude that you have by dealing with this in the manner that you have. Another plus to this forum! We have smart members here that can have an argument but also have the maturity to handle it in a tactful way.:thumbsup3:

Holy Crap!! Who in this world doesnt call a honda toyota subaru mitsubishi etc etc a "*** Car"?????? Think about it! I didnt make any racial comments/slurs or any other crap..all I said was *** cars. It is what it is. *** is just short for the word Japanese in case some dont know that. They are the ones who went off path with this. What about when everyone calls them "ricegrinders" is that going to get all blown out of proportion??? Cmon, this politically correct crap has gone far enough...get over it.

My father was offended when certain people attacked Pearl Harbor. He signed up for the Marine corp and eventually offended a bunch of former offenders at Iwo Jima!
Politically correct as always Viet nam vette....
Dave:hump:

Guyz; relax.

While BlazingC5 may have over-reacted... I turned around and did the same exact thing.

Blown out of proportion by us, and we've now shaken hands via emails.

:cheers:

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I have a guy at work with a Lexus that said the same thing until I took him for a ride in my 04.
He never said it again. Now every time we go out for lunch we go in mine. Enough said.

I hear this everynow and then and I just laugh!

I think this "stigma" - although unwarranted - comes from a few things:

1. The Corvette is a Chevrolet; and historically the Chevrolet cars from GM have been their "K-Mart line" of vehicles, compared to Buick, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Cadillac...

2. Corvette has always been known as a "best bang for the buck" type car. Although it lacks the plush interior of a Porsche, Ferrari... that doesn't necessarily equate to something being cheaply made either.

I don't listen to any of that talk, I love the C5!

I can think of alot of other cars that are more cheaply made than the C5 Vette.

I have had a few minor probs w/ my 2000 MN6 Coupe! I still love this car!



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That's an Awesome shot of the car looks fantastic...

These cars are fantastic, get good gas mileage
and smoke the competition. We are All American.

Air born all the way. Death from above.

These cars are fantastic, get good gas mileage
and smoke the competition. We are All American.

Air born all the way. Death from above.

Cool bro, I think that alot of people can make their C5 cheap by the parts that they put on them.

I don't find the car to be "cheaply made". In fact, mine is well made and drives and rides as such!

To me the C5 was a super car for the money, but the best thing about it was that it set the stage for the C6. Thank You Dave Hill and all the Corvette team.
:cheers:

To me the C5 was a super car for the money, but the best thing about it was that it set the stage for the C6. Thank You Dave Hill and all the Corvette team.
:cheers:

:thumbsup3: :iagree: :beer-fresh:

IMO, a cheap built car would be a Mustang. Before any Ford fans jump me, I own both a C5 and a Mustang. The Mustang stays parked and would be sold if not for the wife. :doh:

IMO, a cheap built car would be a Mustang. Before any Ford fans jump me, I own both a C5 and a Mustang. The Mustang stays parked and would be sold if not for the wife. :doh:

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Nice thumbnail!!!! I made that up a few months back. Turned up pretty good!!!

Who are these "people" that say the car was made cheap?? I'll bet you they drive toyotas or hondas and are stuck on the thought that *** cars are so much better in quality than US cars. Fact is that is not even close to true anymore. Give me a supra or nsx or any "quality" Asian car and I'll eat em for lunch with my cheap v8 pushrod car!!!:thumbsup3:

:iagree: These are the Ricers and Blue Oval geeks wishing they could have one. I love my Z06.

marz:cheers:

During 48 years of Corvette ownership I've heard alot of Corvette neg. carping and all from those who never have owned a Corvette nor never will............I've always just smiled at these fools.:thumbsup3: Now living in a retirement community, I get flak from these dorks:wheelchair: in their Buicks & Gran Marquis. Never owned a garage queen, drove'em all hard and loved every minute.:driving: :driving:......No other vehicle will give you the thrill of motor mash'in like a "ground pound'in" Corvette!:thumbsup:

I wish I had owned one for 48 years. I've owned six...lost three with a divorce and own three again. I agree if you have never owned one, you have nothing to say to me that amounts to anything. They can keep driving their Toyotas and Buicks and keep look'n as I cruise by. My favorite comeback during the recent fuel hikes was comparing my twenty five MPG to their 18s with half the cylinders. That normally shuts them up.

Let the motor mash'in begin:driving: :driving: :driving:

During 48 years of Corvette ownership I've heard alot of Corvette neg. carping and all from those who never have owned a Corvette nor never will............I've always just smiled at these fools.:thumbsup3: Now living in a retirement community, I get flak from these dorks:wheelchair: in their Buicks & Gran Marquis. Never owned a garage queen, drove'em all hard and loved every minute.:driving: :driving:......No other vehicle will give you the thrill of motor mash'in like a "ground pound'in" Corvette!:thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Love your attitude rock on:sm_party:

Motor Mash'N it is!

I think this is a stupid thread. If you think they are made cheap then get rid of it. I would not own a car that I thought was made cheaply!

I think this is a stupid thread. If you think they are made cheap then get rid of it. I would not own a car that I thought was made cheaply!

Well it is not a stupid thread, just some people expressing their feelings about other "stupid" people that think the Corvette is cheap. :cheers:

:burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: ....mash yer motor

If cars were built to sustain the long haul what would happen to the Billion dollar car repair industry:toilet:

Well it is not a stupid thread, just some people expressing their feelings about other "stupid" people that think the Corvette is cheap.


ding...ding...ding; we have a winner !


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There is always going to be talk like this and as alot of you have already stated the talk is from most likely folks that don't even own a vette.:doh:

I am sitting at a red light in the city last summer looking at a guy in a ferrari. it was a brand new 599. the guy driving was looking at my C5 just as hard as i looked at his 599. Gotta have the C5.

I think they are great cars, I am on my second C5 and have loved them both. I agree with the comment above there was allot of technology built into these cars.
David

yes to a degree the bowtie means your getting your fair share of plastic all over but "cheap" no inexpensive yes, if it wanst a cheap it would be a Ferrari. think about it

I have heard several people saying that the C5 Corvette was a cheaply made car because of some of the materials that were used in making it. I do not feel this way, how many of you feel that it is cheap?
Mine seems to be doing fine. Not cheap from what I can see. Every car has problems some time. So far, I have been pretty lucky and had no major issues.

I agree with alot of you, but in no way do I feel that it is a cheap car. It is such a relative statement.

cheaply may not be the right word. i think it's the best reasonably priced car for the amount of sports car thrill factor. when i read or hear of people making references to "cheaply made", they are usually referring to the stock interior monotone plastics in the car. who cares? you can spend $100K-200K for an "exotic" car with a fancier interior with about the same performance. it also pisses some people off that a small block V8 with 16 valves and pushrods can compete at such a high level. for the money, i think it's one of the best sports cars that can be driven daily on the planet.

right on bro:beerbang: :beerbang: